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 Post subject: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:26 am 
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After few years of casual photographing my figures - I did experimented quite a fair bit of ways to do it.
Generally what I understand there are 2 types of lighting category.
Continuous light - sun light from window,light bulb,fluorescent tube,led,etc...where you constantly have light source aimed at your subject for your camera to capture it.
Flash - Flashgun,speedlite,speedlight,strobe light are just some of the fancy names given to a plain old flashlight.Single burst of light hitting your subject so your camera can capture that burst.

I always wanted a flashgun or two to experiment on photography but the pricing of getting it always out of reach for a casual hobbyist.A first party flashgun can cost anywhere from rm700 to 1500.

With DSLR popularity,some China brands started to churn out some fairly inexpensive options for photography.Take this basic manual flashgun that only cost rm200.Those expensive flashgun of course will come with more functions but I'm very happy with the result of this cheaper alternative.
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Flashgun placed on top of my camera left looking down.
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Taken with Octopus speedlite.
So why the need of flashgun?
In order to freeze a shot you need to achieve minimum shutter speed of 1/60s which is very difficult to achieve in an indoor set-up like our study room or working desk.This flashlight allows you to sync with your camera at 1/200s which is more than adequate to freeze a shot.Which in return will eliminate picture blur because of handshake.Secondly you are no longer bound to mount your camera on tripod so can get better angles or framing.Finally it will give you a polished "studio-like" quality.
Next is a flash trigger system.
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The general rule for using flash is it need to be off your camera where you able to place it at optimal lighting position.Like any professional photographers, their flashlights always off camera unless circumstances does not allow it - like covering a live event.The above shot is taken with flashgun mounted on my camera hotshoe,the overall result is a little lackluster compare to the earlier shot.So you'll need a flash trigger where you can trigger your flashlight remotely.The transmitter can control multiple flashguns within 30m radius via radio frequency.The receiver was designed to hold umbrella and swivel so you get to save some money from getting a separate umbrella mount.
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Flashgun on receiver that double up as umbrella holder and flash mount.The receiver also can be mounted on any tripod,not just limited to a light stand.Flash trigger will set you back around rm150 (comes with 2 receivers) and the umbrella/light stand combo is another rm45.For the price of one SS figure release I get a single flashlight system.
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My single flashgun placed above my camera right with umbrella reflecting light to subject.Since the flash is a manual type,you need to do some trial and error to determine the power output.

The other advantage is the whole system is wireless and I do not have wires running around all over the place.And also a lot more easier to set-up compare to using table lamps.

Read on the net some flash trigger also can be used on certain point and shoot camera.Depending on whether your camera has a hot shoe mount and is it compatible with the trigger.


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 Post subject: Re: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:35 pm 
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What about High ISO, Long exposure (with tripod alternative). and cheap constant lighting. As static figure offers more varied(cheap) alternatives as oppose to live subjects.


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 Post subject: Re: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:50 pm 
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BeastX wrote:
What about High ISO, Long exposure (with tripod alternative). and cheap constant lighting. As static figure offers more varied(cheap) alternatives as oppose to live subjects.

It all boils down to your photography style.All techniques will work,just a matter of which one you want to master.The biggest disadvantage for continuous light is it does not offer freedom for your camera and cumbersome to set-up.To get effective lighting you need like 2 to 3 lights.Usually it takes me about 10 to 15 mins to set-up but with flash it's just minutes.Long exposure also zap more juice from your camera which will interrupt your shooting session.

The whole idea is rather than spending 1 hour to shoot a figure,the flashgun can do it like 15 minutes.Also it allow you to get more shots within the given time frame.More importantly you want to achieve a more studio like or pro looking pictures.Which unfortunately I'm still thriving to achieve. :sad-cloud:

High ISO may help boost your shutter speed but at the same time it'll introduce more noise.Unless you are talking about those high end camera which literally gives off the chart pristine high ISO pictures.

Obviously the flash unit is not just for shooting toy lah!It still can be mounted on hot shoe for gathering events or can take ic photo on your own or can even seduce some mui-mui chai to let you photograph them. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:14 pm 
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Good post! Informative. Keep em coming!

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 Post subject: Re: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:37 pm 
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caleb wrote:
Good post! Informative. Keep em coming!

Thanks man.Will upload more findings later.


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 Post subject: Re: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:51 pm 
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Also the other thing is to emulate overseas collector's spirit who did not stop at just showing their figures,the effort they put into their photo presentation also another characteristic to admire.Especially Korean and BBICN big name collector's pictures are taken with high standard.Especially 100MA,
Frankenstein,Zhu and Lionmoon.


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 Post subject: Re: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:02 am 
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^ I'd go with Luka, OMG and TIN's work....

and the most important tool for macro photography... a big arse macro lens.


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 Post subject: Re: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:34 pm 
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To each his own.

Sorry to go out of topic a little.

Personally find Luka or OMG works looks a lot like product announcement pics.Although lighting and framing is good but lacks attitude and character.Technically their picture is spot-on but not distinctive or memorable.

What I perceived in a good photography is it should have a personality or story of his own and more than just a shot of "shiok sendiri".Personally I'm guilty of a "shiok sendiri" mentality as well and hope slowly get to adopt a more "reason behind the shots" mentality. :tease:

Usually big lens are those long telephoto lens worr.Macro essentially is a prime lens except for its reverse zoom barrel. :|


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 Post subject: Re: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:37 am 
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a proper macro lens (my definition of big arse):
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not the white canon bazookas that you see on the football pitch/race track


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 Post subject: Re: Flash photography?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:13 am 
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Bro,think you got it mix up with that stupid "micro" labeling on the lens.It's a fancy labeling cooked up by manufacturer which just means because of long focal length you can do close-up photography but not true macro.Human or wildlife animal you can get decent close-up but not on miniature subject like our toys.
A true macro lens has 1:1 magnification and it's at fixed focal length 35,50,60,90 or 100mm.
Your first glass is a fixed 200mm focal length and has 1:4 magnification.You can't use this for macro photography because the focal length is too long to do macro as the slightest movement will register like earthquake on your viewfinder and focusing will be a bitch.
Second lens is a 70-200mm zoom with 1:2 magnification.It's a telephoto zoom lens lerr!
Furthermore minimum focus from such long focal length is about 1m to 1.5m away from subject.True macro can go as close as few cm away from subject.
Here is a comprehensive explanation of true macro vs close-up (micro) explanation.
http://www.slrphotographyguide.com/blog ... rence.html
And these are true macro lens.
http://www.momentcorp.com/review/tam90macro.html
http://www.tamron.com/en/photolens/di_II_macro/


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